All right , seeing that you are not "getting" what I am trying to say, let me spell it out for you in plain english. IF MICHEAL VICK DID WHAT HE IS ACCUSED OF DOING, THEN YES,HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO WHATEVER LENGTHS THE LAW ALLOWS FOR ORGANIGING DOG FIGHTING .
Now do you understand.?????
I have been here long enough kittyman for you to know that I do not agree with harming an innocent animal. Boy ,you had better be glad I am not in a "fowl" mood.

You ought to know me well by now from all of the "conversations "we have had on here kittyman. You should be ashamed of yourself for even think that I would think it ok for anyone to do this stuff.
And the crack about the granny,I dont even know what to say about that one.
You must have an alter ego hiding in all that furr somewhere.It may be time for a haircut kittyman. I just dont know about you anymore,and to think I was going to have you over for homemade icecream,

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Originally posted by French Toast:

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Originally posted by *~*M*J*~*:

I'm more concerned with this:

A New York daycare worker is accused of drugging children under her care, so they'd be drowsy for nap time. She's facing charges and the daycare has been shut down. (July 26)

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Originally posted by Angel:
While I do understand the concern for the animals involved,if you dont like what the people involved are doing,try doing something about it. If you know this is happening and not doing anything about it then you are just as guilty.
I think the more important matter at hand other than illegal dog fights is the woman who ran the man over killing him and she only gets a month!! She also get 5 years probation. Where is the fairness of that? I dont blame the momma for being angry and calling the race card on that. Oh ,the victim was a black adult man with children to support. The woman was white. The color doesnt matter,but the result of the verdict,how did they come up with a month? I will try to find this and then post it. This is what I am outraged about right now.

What you're saying is that dog fighting and the associated brutality is O.K. as long as other people are doing horrible things and getting off easy.

Come on, people. You can always find apparent miscarriages of justice if you look hard enough. That doesn't begin to excuse all the heinous deeds that Michael Vick is accused of.

Stop making excuses for this guy and look at it for what it is - unrestrained cruelty to animals.

Thank God I'm a cat!

"Cat", That's your opinion and you are entitled to it as I am. I am more concerned about humans being mistreated. That posting stemmed from the troll with a personality conflict with itself trying to come off like I am so aware of dogs being mistreated and I don't report it. I don't report what I don't see or know about. I only read about what others got caught doing with or to their animals. I SEE people mistreat their children and I totally report it. After it's reported I have no control over it. My response was to the troll that I look out for other humans. It's not on my list to seek out people being mean to animals. I watch over helpless children.

Now in my opinion if Vick is guilty then they should give him his punishment,but it will make me sick if he gets more time than someone who left their kid unattended. This is how I feel about the matter and nothing will ever change it.

You both seem to be saying that while neither of you approve of cruelty to animals, it's not a burning issue for either of you. Every thing I've read tells me that people who mistreat animals often go on to abuse children and spouses. I just don't understand people who say that cruelty to animals is not right but it's no big deal for them, either. It's not like we can't fight cruelty to animals and fight child abuse. They both need to be eradicated.

There seems to be quite a few people who are willing to let Michael Vick off the hook because he is said to have abused animals rather than children. These charges are very serious and should be taken as such.

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Originally posted by French Toast:
You both seem to be saying that while neither of you approve of cruelty to animals, it's not a burning issue for either of you. Every thing I've read tells me that people who mistreat animals often go on to abuse children and spouses. I just don't understand people who say that cruelty to animals is not right but it's no big deal for them, either. It's not like we can't fight cruelty to animals and fight child abuse. They both need to be eradicated.

There seems to be quite a few people who are willing to let Michael Vick off the hook because he is said to have abused animals rather than children. These charges are very serious and should be taken as such.

I'd spot someone being mean to their child before I would spot them being mean to their "pet." I reckon it's because I know more about child abuse going on than animal abuse. At any rate someone could say you are just the same. Thinking animals being abused is more important than a child being abused. I feel the opposite.

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Originally posted by French Toast:
You both seem to be saying that while neither of you approve of cruelty to animals, it's not a burning issue for either of you. Every thing I've read tells me that people who mistreat animals often go on to abuse children and spouses. I just don't understand people who say that cruelty to animals is not right but it's no big deal for them, either. It's not like we can't fight cruelty to animals and fight child abuse. They both need to be eradicated.

There seems to be quite a few people who are willing to let Michael Vick off the hook because he is said to have abused animals rather than children. These charges are very serious and should be taken as such.

I'd spot someone being mean to their child before I would spot them being mean to their "pet." I reckon it's because I know more about child abuse going on than animal abuse. At any rate someone could say you are just the same. Thinking animals being abused is more important than a child being abused. I feel the opposite.

I can understand, M.J., you saying that fighting child abuse is a more important issue for you than fighting animal cruelty. It's just the people who say, 'At least he wasn't beating his child', that bug me. To me, it's sort of the same as someone advocating that a bank robber get off without imprisonment because 'At least he didn't kill anyone while robbing the bank.' Don't diminish what this guy is said to have done. It's not right and there's no way to justify it.