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I graduated from Russell County High School 5 years ago and prayer was never an issue. Since then I have moved to Louisville 2 years ago and unfortunately it became an issue this year when 1 student asked that prayer be done away with. However, I was very proud of the students standing up for what is right. I had a cousin graduating from there this year and I attended the graduation and I am so proud that I am from a community that is willing to stand up for what is right and I hope to see that the students at Shelby County do the same thing. We need more people to stand up for what is right and that's having prayer in school. How is it right that a few students take the right of the ones that believe in God away? I don't understand that.
 
Posts: 1 | Registered: June 02, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Well, it is wrong. This ACLU is taking everything from us. What is next? I think the ACLU will not let us pray in our homes. I see a past Russia here. Guess the ACLU will take, In God We Trust off our money next. Because someone from another country comes in and says, no, it offends us, put their god or ho'hommad on the money we use each day? We have had a system her for over 200 years, and has worked well, why let someone who came here change it? And this ACLU, they are overstepping their lines. What is next people, are they going to tell you that you cannot pray in your own home, in public? Ths great country was built on god and freedom. And the ACLU and new comers are taking it away from us, when are we going to stand up?
 
Posts: 2 | Location: Louisville | Registered: June 04, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Do you even know how many times the ACLU has won in court to protect your right to say what you just said?
If it was your right to bring prayer into a public school then the supreame court would stand up for you.
But it isn't and they never will.
You would have to overturn the first amendment to do that.
Then you would have NO right to pray anywhere or voice your opinion at all.
As far as 'in god we trust', did you even study in history class.
Our founding fathers didn't come up with that.
It was put there in 1864 on the suggestion of senators who thought not enough christian voters were on the side of the civil war against the south.
Before that time there was no documentation printed or otherwise accepted by this govornment that had ANYTHING to do with god being a part of govornment in any way.
AND LEST WE FORGET PROPHESY (for all you christians) that in the end times money would bear a deceptive mark of divinity.
Also what does the bible say about the money changer?
Shelby county was 100% christian up intil this last decade. C'ept for me in 94'.
It is perfectly fine as long as no other faith is aorund if that is what everyone can accept.
But since faith can not be law you have to respect the minority no matter how small.
It could just as easily have been the taliban praying every year.
I'm sure you would have stood up for the ONE Christian who wouldn't want muslim prayer in an American school.
If you want to pray in school then go to a private school.
Public school is on MY TAX DIME as well as the tax money of millions of others who ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!
Would you like to fight with all these other faiths over it as well.
We all know what happens then.
Just look at Isriel.
4000 years of fighting over land in the name of god.
Is that what you want here in America?


“Life is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel.”
-Walpole
 
Posts: 328 | Registered: June 05, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It is just as much my right to pray in public school as it is the muslims and everyone else. It is my right to pray in public school just as much as it is a non-religious person's right not to. I don't see a problem here, and I honestly doubt very seriously that the decision of whether we can pray in school or not is going to lead us into any 4000 year war. We are a nation built on choises. We came here for the freedom to choose what religion we wished to follow, if any, and I don't think that should be tampered with now. We aren't forcing anyone to pray in school, it's just kind of nice to know that someone we're there with everyday has something deeper than clothing style in common with us.

You're right, 'In God We Trust' has not always been on the dollar, but you know what? I'm still not sure what people are so afraid of. There are people praying in school. Big deal. I'm sure there are plenty of things that people do in school or anywhere else that many people find offensive everyday. No offense, but get over it. This is America. We can choose to pray, rally, do anything as far as freedom of speech goes, whenever and wherever we want, with however big a group is willing. What is there to be offended by?


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Posts: 23 | Location: place | Registered: May 15, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Your kind of missing the point here and you do not know all the information.

1.) When it was proposed to these students and even some of the Shelby County staff members at the school, that the Muslim prayer be honored as well during this graduation there was a hateful and racist outpouring of threats and negative objection to the very idea.
So right there you have an ironic example in a majority disrespecting the rights of a minority and then going one further by turning into a mob.
OVER AN IDEA ALONE!
RIGHT HERE in America and over an issue of faith no less.
I think this girl did us a favor by taking out the prayer because these kids and even their own principal are obviously NOT good Christians and would rather hate with their faith then honor it.

2.) The KKK handing out their hateful filth in the hallways of a public high school and showing up to protest on school grounds is another perfect example of what prayer in a public school can cause.
They consider themselves good Christians and protectors of faith.
They also believed that this kind of protest would cause their public image to improve.
Now this could have just as easily been the taliban, the VC, the Kurgen or even Satanists for that matter. If you open the door, EVERYONE has a right to enter.

3.) Some of these students thought that "In god we trust" was written on one of the constitutional documents by the founding fathers. When I graduated from Shelby County High School in 1994
I was one of only THREE students (NOT INCLUDING THEvaledictorian that year) who could tell you 100% : the location and origin of the Parthenon, if the earth was in orbit of the sun or the other way around and the branches of government and the station of each.
The united states is still to this day 15th in education behind all other superpowers and THREE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.
If I can’t trust for even ONE SECOND that most of these kids can be responsible and inelegant enough with the rights they DO HAVE then why would I want to trust them with or allow them a right they do not have?
Especially after what they said about allowing an alternative or fair and equal prayer for another faith.

We have already seen the evil and malice in the hearts of people who want prayer in public school and it was the majority of those who wanted to act that way.
The reason the founding fathers wrote the first amendment as well as the other amendments in the manner they did was to protect and serve the common good while allowing us the maximum level of freedom. They knew the childishness of the thousands of years that had come before and that most of it had come because of religion. They also took into account that the last 1000 years had contained some rather bloody childishness that had been committed exclusively by people calling themselves Christians and that this was an insult to the institution of honest faith.
Because believe it or not, the founding fathers may just have been some of the most deeply religious Christians this country has ever seen. One might say that this is an example of great freedom with great responsibility.

Private schools are available and successful forms of education. They allow prayer and in this country they encompass every faith you can think of.
You can also home school OR you can simply send your kids to church more.

But before anything else, pick up a history book.
Learn, look and listen to all the facts before you claim this girl has somehow taken away YOUR rights.
Because if she actually had then you would be winning millions in the supreme court right now.
Not ONE of those students bursting out in random prayer in protest was holding up an American flag like the students who were in support of no prayer at that graduation.
Not one of them has even approached the supreme court either.
That is another very ironic and cruel example of ignorance and intolerance that again shows just how much church and state can not mix.


“Life is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel.”
-Walpole
 
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