All I know is that you don't hear about Southern Baptists or Roman Catholics blowing themselves up. In fact, all other major religions condemn the taking of one's own life or that of another. Only Islam lends itself to killing oneself and other in the name of Islamic Jihad.

Of course, you'll say, 'No, no, no. They were extremnists.' What religion did the 09/11 hijackers observe??? It seems very strange that one religion is so overly represented in all these suicide bombings.

Perhaps, Justin, you should read Religion of Peace? by Robert Spencer. It would open your eyes to reality.

Religion of Peace?

No, you don’t hear any Baptists or Roman Catholics or other Christian sects talking about “Jihad” outright.
But there are plenty of them right here in Kentucky, who use the “N” word, preach racial segregation and preach the superiority of the white race over all others.
There are also plenty of them who have preached and pledged piety to that old Zionist chestnut, the “end times” in which all of “god’s soldiers” will be called to fight a great battle in the “holy land”.
There are also a good number of them who actually think that the world was created only 8000 to 9000 years ago and that people lived with dinosaurs.

Would YOU say these kinds of Christians are a rightful representation of the whole of Christianity?
Do their numbers represent a majority?
Are their translations of the bible true to the intentions of those who inspired the words in the bible?

The number of Muslims who actually carry out acts of terror or translate the beliefs of Islam as commandments to kill all “infidels” only makes up less then 5% of the total Muslim population world wide.
Which is one reason this is a war on “terror” as apposed to some insane quest of faith.
Wars should be fought on facts, not faith.
There are Muslims in West Africa, south East Asia, Indonesia, South west Asia, the Ukraine, Canada and America.
John Mc Cain can’t even tell the difference between Shia and Sunni and actually said that Al Qaeda was made up of Shiites.
Now with that kind of ignorant and insulting rhetoric coming from one of our top officials, is it any wonder why most Muslims (weather involved in terror or not) perceive Americans as ignorant to their beliefs and culture?

We have already covered Robert Spencer.
He is a hack tabloid writer who doesn’t even call himself a journalist by any measure.
If you want to source something, make sure it is a substantial source.
You might as well be using Michael Moore or Ann Cutler as sources.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think that the Muslim religion is beyond reproach while I think that it needs to answer some questions and deserves a closer examination. What can you say about a religion that promises a guy who kills an infidel (even if he kills himself in the process) a sexual nirvana with 72 virgins waiting for him in heaven??? That's sick. Here's what is really waiting for those Muslim killers in heaven:

Much to their suprise, the Virgins awaiting Musilims in Heaven were not quite what they had expected .

The 72 virgin beleif is part of a minority sect of Islam. Just as Suicide bombing is.
Both have so little to do with the true beleifs and the beleif system of the majority of Islam that it would be like saying all Christians are Racists or practice polygamy just because the KKK and the Mormons do it.
Actually it isn't even that large a number on the Islamic side to match the number of Mormons in he world.

What if an obscure minority of Christian cultists like the KKK started sending suicide bombers to the middle east and blowing themselves up because they beleive god wants them to?

Obvioulsy the Muslims would say that this is an insane and cruel aspect of ALL Christian beleifs and it is the Christian faith itself that is to blame.
Oh, wait,.. The taliban and Al Qaeda DO THAT ALREADY without justification!

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Muslims on the ivory coast and in many parts of north eastern Africa actually beleive Jesus is one of thier prophets.

If you want to blindly use bigitry and act paranoid in reguards to millions of people based on their faith, then you are no better then the terrorists. Becuase that is EXACTLY how a terrorist thinks.
It isn't about actual political ideas or even survival. If it isn't about money or land grabbing, It is about some mythical or made up idea of creed.

There is no logic to it.

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Originally posted by Justin La Plante:
The 72 virgin beleif is part of a minority sect of Islam. Just as Suicide bombing is.
Both have so little to do with the true beleifs and the beleif system of the majority of Islam that it would be like saying all Christians are Racists or practice polygamy just because the KKK and the Mormons do it.
Actually it isn't even that large a number on the Islamic side to match the number of Mormons in he world.

What if an obscure minority of Christian cultists like the KKK started sending suicide bombers to the middle east and blowing themselves up because they beleive god wants them to?

Obvioulsy the Muslims would say that this is an insane and cruel aspect of ALL Christian beleifs and it is the Christian faith itself that is to blame.
Oh, wait,.. The taliban and Al Qaeda DO THAT ALREADY without justification!

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Muslims on the ivory coast and in many parts of north eastern Africa actually beleive Jesus is one of thier prophets.

If you want to blindly use bigitry and act paranoid in reguards to millions of people based on their faith, then you are no better then the terrorists. Becuase that is EXACTLY how a terrorist thinks.
It isn't about actual political ideas or even survival. If it isn't about money or land grabbing, It is about some mythical or made up idea of creed.

There is no logic to it.

The only thing lacking logic is your thought process. Not a slam, just an observation.

Let's pretend you're really looking for discussion and not just trying to be argumentative. For starters, i before e, except after c.

Additionally, Jesus is a prophet in Islam... not just Ivory Coast Islam or eastern African Islam. The Qur'an teaches he was born to Mary by virgin conception but differs when it comes to how he returned to heaven. Christianity says crucifixion then raised from the dead, Islam says he never died but was "raised alive" to heaven. In Islam, he wasn't the Son, and followers of Islam have a hard time with the whole "How could the Son of God die?" concept.

Next. The problem with comparing Islamic suicide bombers to fictitious Christian suicide bombers isn't in the numbers... it's in how the rest of the believers view them. If a muslim attacks an enemy of Islam he isn't a "suicide bomber". He is then a martyr dying in the name of the greatest deed they can give their life for: religious Jihad. The Qur'an tells them to kill the non-believers. The differences among muslims then would be in who they see as enemies to Islam.

GRANTED!! The physical number of bombers or bomber organizers is in the minority. The biggest stumbling block in this debate is that the governments where these terrorist organizations thrive aren't as committed to stopping them as a peaceful government should be if they were truly opposed to their actions.

A more fair comparison (since you like using the kkk we'll stick with that) would be: What if a small group of kkk started sending suicide bombers to the middle east.... and the rest of Christianity didn't bat an eye? The difference is that America would do everything in its power to infiltrate and stop the groups whereas a good portion of middle eastern countries are a safe haven for terrorism or (in the past) provide monetary benefits to the families of deceased suicide bombers.

How about this... we deal with Islam without trying to compare it to Christianity or any other religion. The question remains, in a world of billions and billions of muslims... how does terrorism even exist? My belief: Too many "peaceful" muslim civilians or Islamic governments have to be turning a blind eye to the activities which they KNOW bring violence to non-muslims... I want to know "Why?".

And I've never heard of the KKK being polygamists. I suspect you're wrong again and will be unwilling to retract it due to your ego... but feel free to provide some support to your claims. Keep in mind I have Google too.

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